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TOP set +31 and alittle math
« on: December 03, 2017, 19:17:38 »
I am new at this server but i already got some qestions.

Daily qest in galaxy gives 2 star stones of 1 kind. I need summary 220 stones for set and weapon. 220:2=110. 110 days of every day farm. It is close to 4 month of  everyday activity.

 But is is just a beginning +7 set and weapon gives not so much deff, but weapon gives not so much damage, so we need it to enchant and soulcraft it all. Lets see how much it gona cost.
 
 25 Inshurance scrolls cost 300 cash. F7 cookie factory(best way to get magic coins (cash)) gives about 30 magic coins for a solo run.  One run is kinda 0.4-0.5 hours of non-stop gameplay.

 How much is 25 Insurance scrolls? I tried more than 8 times to soulcraft the item till got it at EMPORIA 2 stars enchanter. So we can make a conclusion that it is not so much, to put it mildly.

So math says that in 7 hours of farming F7 you get about 3 once graded with soulcraft items. Set has 13 items (with belt, weapon, rings neck, and shield) ((13(items)x4(grades of soulcraft)x8(tries if you are the lucky one)):25(scrolls in pack))x300(cash 1 pack)=4992cash. 4992 cash is 7488 coins (250 F7 runs) Congrats! You soulcrafted all the items, left the less one, make it +31.

Lets take a middle number of needed tries for a +31 item. Let it be 500(half of the number that i heared from people with +31 weapon). ((500 (tries)x9(items))/25(scrolls in pack))x300(cash for pack)=54000 cash(2700 F7 runs)

So. If you gona play 9 HOURS EVERY DAY it will take JUST 167 days.
Shure all these estimates are approximate, but ok, even 100 days, i think, would be enough for every newbie to become scaried.
So please GMs: 1. Let us farm Star Stones. Let is be solo qest with no party avalable, or make boss more hit points, but dont limit tries. It really makes gameplay painfull, when you understand that all you can do anything you want, but makes sence only F7 and everyday qest on galaxy.
2. Lower the insurance scrolls and enchant/soulcraft runestones price.
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Thx you so much for attention and possible ansvers and sorry for alot of numbers that nade your head ake ;3

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Re: TOP set +31 and alittle math
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2017, 22:26:53 »
First of all ... Wow :)

Secondly, u get 3 star stones per day not 2, just a small correction.

I dont know whats your past with mmorpgs in general, but in my experience mmorpg means grind and farm.
So your argument that you have to play the game to get endgame stuff is ..... Wow

On the other hand, galaxia items/+31 gears/cards/whatevers, isnt made to be easily achieved in matter of weeks. if it was like that then everyone would run around with maxed gear. that results in actualy discouraging situation for all players.

Next thing, why u didnt even pointed out farming other gears as your funding? Drop paris wings, ull get alot of cash for it. etc.

Anyway, if u compare everything to f7 then it will be like that sure, but u have to learn other ways to make profit in this game. geez

PS. you even forgot to put crafting Stones in your calculations, and different types of insurance scrolls :)

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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2017, 22:49:59 »
If you really want to make any "fixes" as u spoken in your post, then the easiest way to do for devs is to increase magic coins drop rate. That would help with enchanting/soulcrafting but still keep galaxia as an endgame gear tough to farm.

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Re: TOP set +31 and alittle math
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2017, 09:18:51 »

I dont know whats your past with mmorpgs in general, but in my experience mmorpg means grind and farm.
So your argument that you have to play the game to get endgame stuff is ..... Wow

On the other hand, galaxia items/+31 gears/cards/whatevers, isnt made to be easily achieved in matter of weeks. if it was like that then everyone would run around with maxed gear. that results in actualy discouraging situation for all players.

Next thing, why u didnt even pointed out farming other gears as your funding? Drop paris wings, ull get alot of cash for it. etc.

Anyway, if u compare everything to f7 then it will be like that sure, but u have to learn other ways to make profit in this game. geez

PS. you even forgot to put crafting Stones in your calculations, and different types of insurance scrolls :)

1. Have you seen alot af customers in your market shop, that could buy paris wings tec. in it and bring alot of cash? Market is holding +- 100 items that noone buys,  coz online is wery low, and i havent seen even 1 pair of paris wings in it. More than it, there is 2 kind of people on server, 1. poor newbies that have no cash to buy naything and dont know that to do. 2. High farmed guys that dont need anything and 90% of time stay afk of offline instead of help and get buyers. (and dont say that is is not like this, i personally killed shiva(BoneDragon) 4 times to help other newbies to get 3 class)

2. Grind and farming if the main thing in mmorpg, but having even 3 tries per day you play 1-1.5 hrs and wait a day till next qest.

3. Farm should have any interractive part, to press F3 25 mins staying at a place couldnt be named grind (btw instrument of grind (sandboxie) is banned, so you cant even open it in 2-3 accounts to get more)

4.I didnt forgot to add in score crafting stones and different scrolls.
I specially didnt added in cost  runestone and cards coz if you add it, you will get an year of 24/7 farming.

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Re: TOP set +31 and alittle math
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2017, 10:49:59 »
True, with our server population we are bound to see a contrast between newbies and older players. Newbies have a hard time with getting anything good, and high end players are mostly afking or semi quit. As I said before if we had magic coins drop rate increased then that contrast would shrink abit.

You won't really see items like Paris wings on market since price of those are fluctuating alot.

About looking for help, use discord (or join our discord - Eternity). U can always find someone online there.

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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2017, 20:11:43 »
About looking for help, use discord (or join our discord - Eternity). U can always find someone online there.
i am already in this guild))
I have alot of experience in game, so can farm any boss and dungeon, my problem is sometimes language and server differences, like boss drop, craft specials etc. And the only thing that makes me sad is fact that i will get my fullset NEWER.

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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2017, 00:13:22 »
Well if u already have that "give up" mindset, then yeah u wont get endgame set for sure. And if u are in our guild then it shouldnt be that hard to get help, i just dont really see u in any of our guild communication paths ...

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Re: TOP set +31 and alittle math
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2017, 10:21:16 »
Well if u already have that "give up" mindset, then yeah u wont get endgame set for sure. And if u are in our guild then it shouldnt be that hard to get help, i just dont really see u in any of our guild communication paths ...
Cmon, 3k hours is too much anyway and i'm not gona play every day 6+hrs. Server will close earlier than i get it. Thats all i mean)

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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2017, 11:09:44 »
Suuuure, I saw players with less that 500 hours on their chars and already running with hero POS, there's always a way to get it faster, u just need to think about it.

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Re: TOP set +31 and alittle math
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2017, 11:58:50 »
Suuuure, I saw players with less that 500 hours on their chars and already running with hero POS, there's always a way to get it faster, u just need to think about it.
I think that you can get this set from 1 lvl even for 150-200 hrs or less, just farming dailies, magic coins and buying ingredients. But what you gona do with white +7 Hero pos set? I think 3 ways. If you are in guild you can do dailies to sell stones in it, farm BSQ and leave game till next day. Start F7 spam(if you have iron will) Or create 2-3 accounts fill it with best farming Stars classes(Shaman of Invoker idk) personages, lvlup till 50 lvl and do on each daily qests, yea) To get a set is just start (if you can solo kill 17 mln HP VanCliff at galaxy F6) but what after it?
BTW i got an idea. What about drop of insurance scrolls like magic coins in galaxy, or any other instant event . If it would drop there even with 1% chanse it would be ok i think)

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Re: TOP set +31 and alittle math
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2017, 12:04:50 »
True, multiple chars helps out by alot with dailies, bsq is always a good way to farm cash (50-60) per bsq.

Best way is to increase magic coins drop rate, it's overall boost for everyone who wants to buy stuff at itemshop.

Try to create a ticket at support, ask amata if they are willing to boost drop rates, 10% or more. Maybe u will be lucky.